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Just four weeks remain in the NFL odds regular season and week 15 has major playoff implications. All 32 teams are in play with a pair of Saturday matchups promising to be specially interesting. The Raiders take on the Browns in a battle of teams striving for a spot in the AFC playoffs while the Patriots take on the Colts in a primetime classic matchup. Those come after what should be an exciting Thursday night show down between AFC West rivals, Kansas City and Los Angeles. The Packers and Ravens also meet on Sunday, however, both Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson could be out with injury. But let’s take a look into week 15 of the regular season with Matt Landes, Las Vegas Cris and Scott Kellen.
Matt Landes:
NFL week 15 coming up and guys it’s been a dizzying news cycle to start the week. I kind of thought we might kick off the show talking about some thrillers on Sunday, having a winning week 14 across the board but it’s been a bit of a buzz kill early this week, some serious 2020 vibes creeping back in. Cris, I’m afraid I’d get a shorter answer if I phrase the question, who isn’t on the COVID list in the NFL right now?
Las Vegas Cris:
Yeah. I’m just looking at the latest COVID list, 33 new additions today. I think the number is over 100 over the last 10 days or something, they have tested or had false tests and regular tests, it’s just getting completely out of hand. Last night the Rams lost Higbee and today he’s negative and he could have played so it’s a shame that there’s a problem with the testings and it’s a shame that people are getting it so it’s just another obstacle as if we needed any more to handicap the NFL this year.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. And Scott, to that end how do you balance getting a good number early in the week versus betting into more complete information later in the week with all this going on?
Scott Kellen:
It’s tough because you don’t know what’s coming on this COVID stuff, I mean, we saw yesterday with Jalen Ramsey and Higbee and whatnot, day of the game stuff. So this stuff can go all the way up to Sunday morning and all of a sudden you get to just be blown out and then you get certain positions which can get impacted, which can just wipe out a whole lot of people so it’s tough. I mean, you hate to wait because you’ll lose good numbers, you try to do the best job but the one thing that is 100% unpredictable is this COVID stuff, I mean, you just cannot predict that at all.
Injuries likely aren’t going to happen during the week, not too often, every once in a while something happens but I think if you think there’s a good number and it’s a valuable number, you try to take it and then you just hope and pray. I mean, what we’re going through right now as Cris just said, I mean, what was it yesterday? He said 37, now Cris is saying maybe 100 in the last 10 days, there’s been a whole bunch added today, every time I look another team has issues. So we’re into this right now and NBA is dealing with this so it’s compounded and just much worse this week right now but I don’t know. If you got a good number you try to take it and then you hope and pray that nothing devastates that number which we’re seeing happen unfortunately today.
Las Vegas Cris:
It’s really important to have good money management, I think I like to have a structured betting and when things get this flaky you get to the point of like, well, wait a minute, I’ve been playing the whole season at X amount and now all these variables are coming in each week and you’ve got multiple NHL hockey games canceled, you’ve got all kinds of problems everywhere, it’s obviously going to get worse, trying to have money management. And I’m thinking, well, how am I supposed to do that? Am I going to go on the hot streak when I lower my bets because of so much uncertainty? So you play all these mind games to try to stay structured, so that’s something that I play with too on this.
Scott Kellen:
Hey, I want to see your line moves here when we get to those today with COVID hit and everything, I mean, things can move five six points.
Las Vegas Cris:
I am not responsible this week.
Scott Kellen:
Yeah, right.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Might have to take that segment with a grain of salt. But before we get there, Cris, you talk about the mind games and one thing I think we all feel is better is when we get the worst of it where we bet a number and then COVID news moves things against us. But how do you also balance out the possibility that COVID news could work in our favor? Either way we can’t control it and it seems like it’s shutting it out just about a wash but everybody is more afraid of the pain of something moving against them versus the possible upside of things moving for them.
Las Vegas Cris:
Oh see, I’m diving head first in because it’s worked against me, all the injuries and all the COVID news has worked against me the whole season so I’m due, I figure I’m like 70, 30 for it to go in my favor so I’m just firing away. And I fired on the Raiders this morning, that worked out, and unfortunately it didn’t work out with Kansas City because I had a gold line on Kansas City that I thought I would have and now it’s just an okay line.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. I guess if Cris we’re an NFL team right now it might be the one that’s just on a really cold streak on third downs and in the red zone just waiting to break through and see some of that positive regression and we’ll see if we can move things in that direction as we take our early look at week 15. Let’s kick this off as we do on Tuesdays by taking a look at our records so far this season and as we get into it, again, a winning week across the board last week but a lot of murky news to sift through this week. I kind of feel like as we try to build on this in week 15 guys, it’s almost like that scene of Tim Robbins crawling through the tunnel in Shawshank just trying to get through all the crap into the promise lands.
It’s a weird battle sifting through this news cycle in week 15 but we’re here to do our best for the audience, provide value wherever we can. And as we get there for the audience joining us on YouTube, go ahead and give us a quick thumbs up, subscribe, jump in that chat, let us know if you have any questions as well as what you think as we take that early look at the week 15 slate. And Cris, let’s get to it, we’ll pull up a full screen graphic for the YouTube audience showing all the lines on the board right now. Again, maybe a big grain of salt this week with all the COVID news but how do you see these things moving over the course of the next few days?
Las Vegas Cris:
Well, we saw one key COVID news with Kansas City and that brought it down from four to three, if there’s no more news on it I think it might actually start to bounce back up a little bit but, again, that’s a COVID game hard to predict but it seems stable at the moment. Cleveland was six, it’s down to the three range so that’s entirely going to depend on how many more people end up on the COVID list and what the fallout is, so it seems stable at three right now but if you’re not involved in this game yet beware. Indianapolis, that is trying to hit three but the world is going to jump on New England if it sees a three so beware of that, I call it the bungee three at best. Philadelphia is going to throttle between that four and five and a half range I would imagine, I’m waiting the news on Heinicke.
Buffalo injury news, we know Allen is walking around in a boot and it’s going to depend when that news comes out, so it’s been inching down, if it looks like he’s going to be good to go it might bounce back up. Miami seems to have only one direction up because it’s just getting pounded with teasers and there’s not a lot of reason for people to be betting the Jets necessarily. Dallas seems to be inching down and Green Bay that line with Baltimore is entirely unpredictable. Currently it’s off the board most places, around four and a half to five if you can find it but that’s going to have severe movement based on Rodgers toe news or Jackson playing so just be wary.
Tennessee, no major news there but I think if anything it’s not going to keep going up, I think it’ll get some Pittsburgh love. Jacksonville is getting love this morning, it was a flat three, three and a halfs are popping up, I don’t anticipate it to continue to go up though, I think it might come back down. Arizona has got a bunch of injury news that people are waiting on with Hopkins and one other person so that’s going to depend on that but I think that that’s going to be stable for a while. I think Detroit is starting to get some play though, it’s inching down. San Francisco, eight and a half, nine, not many places, I think it’s going to see 10, it’s not going down, I don’t think.
Denver, the word on the street, people are surprised Denver is the favorite here so I don’t anticipate too much more Denver betting so it seems kind of stable there. The Rams have 13 people on the COVID list, if you can find a line it’s about four and a half or five, you’re just going to have to wait for more news on that to sift out. New Orleans, 10 and a half, 11, or Tampa Bay 10 and a half and 11, I think that that is going to be going down to 10, it’ll end up down to 10 in my opinion. And Minnesota Chicago has COVID news on both sides, it’s right around three and a half, you just have to pay attention to the COVID news, it seems kind of stable where it is, I don’t see any major movement on that.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Well Scott, to add injury too in salt here, we’ve got not just a lot of COVID news surrounding the whole league it seems right now but what are some of the big injuries you’ll be keeping an eye on over the next few days that, COVID aside, could impact the games on this weekend’s slate?
Scott Kellen:
Yeah. So on the injury front Matt, like you said, we got the whole COVID thing of course, but beyond that the Falcons lost a safety last week Erik Harris who was a starter for them so that’s a loss for them, he is probably worth less than a half point but there’s some value there. The Cowboys is a big one here where they have struggled, left tackle Tyron Smith he is out it looks like for this week, he was hurt last game, and Dak has struggled when he has not been in there. As Cris alluded to, we’ve got a whole bunch of quarterback injuries as well. So from the Giants standpoint we know Daniel Jones is out, I think he’s getting the neck looked at again, good chance he is not playing this week. And then they lost defensive tackle Leonard Williams in the game last week to the chargers elbow injury, good news is, it does not seem to be season ending, it remains questionable if he’ll be able to actually play this week or not.
The Ravens standpoint, Lamar Jackson like Cris spoke about, but then they also lost Calais Campbell last week during that game and he’s a big clog in the middle of the defensive line for them. We know all about all their injuries into secondary, they start to lose some potential there on the defensive line that could be a major impact for them as well so that bears watching, we’ll obviously update that on Friday. The Bills again, Josh Allen we talked about, they also lost Emmanuel Sanders their receiver in that game against Tampa Bay so we’ll see what happens there. Bears got back Roquan Smith last week in that game and then he was hurt early in that game, a very important linebacker for the Bears on the defensive side. Obviously all the COVID stuff that goes with that as well that Chris mentioned and again, we’ll update that stuff on Friday, sounds a like a broken record.
Packers lose right tackle Billy Turner, in and of itself not a big deal but let’s remember they played all year without left tackle David Bakhtiari an all pro, Elgton Jenkins their left guard is now out for the year, he’s potentially an all pro player, they’ve been playing without their center Josh Myers for quite some time now. And Dennis Kelly came in and played right tackle for Billy Turner, he’s not a fantastic offensive lineman, he did start last year for Tennessee so he’s very capable. And Aaron Rodgers has done a masterful job as a Packers offense in general really covering up for this depleted offensive line but again, it’s just something to take note of, then you got Rodgers with the bad toe so just a mental note, we’ll see how it impacts them.
The Washington Football Team, Taylor Heinicke from a quarterback standpoint again we’ll see, and they’re just getting devastated on the defensive line with guys that have been hit with COVID. We know Chase Young is out because of the injury, Montez Sweat got hurt, he was going to come back last week, he’s got COVID now so he missed last week, we’ll see if he can play this week. Jonathan Allen another key defensive lineman has COVID now along with a whole host of other players on that defensive line with COVID so that position group has been hit very, very hard. I just saw Kendall Fuller now on the COVID list from the secondary so again, we’ll have to update that on Friday. And then I don’t know if it’s 50 or greater now with everything that we’re seeing today but there is just a host of COVID players right now.
And obviously if they’re vaccinated and they’re hit with COVID early in the week, they still have a chance to test negative twice I believe it is to play on Sunday. So some of these guys on COVID could possibly play, other guys obviously will not, and if you’re not vaccinated there’s no way you’re playing, that’s a mandatory I think 10 days. So we’ll update a lot of this on Friday but just a ton of issues from a COVID standpoint. And we’re only in Tuesday, how much more could possibly happen between now and Friday? Probably a fair amount so we’ll update more of this on Friday as we get closer to the Sunday games and Saturday games obviously.
Las Vegas Cris:
Yeah. I’m seeing 10 Washington Redskins on the COVID list now.
Scott Kellen:
It’s crazy.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Well, and Scott you mentioned those Sunday and Saturday games and let’s not forget that Thursday game already affected by COVID with Slater for the Chargers and then today Chris Jones for the Chiefs entering COVID protocols so even for a game kicking off in little more than 48 hours plenty of uncertainty. But we’ll do our best to break it down right now, one of us will have a bet on a side in that one so let’s get to it. Perhaps the marque matchup of the week coming out of the gates on Thursday night the Chiefs at the Chargers, Kansas City laying three at minus 115, again, that could be a moving target of the line based on news we get in the next 48 hours, total 52. Cris you’re on a side in this one, tell us who you like.
Las Vegas Cris:
Yeah. I thought I had some gold because I snagged an expensive three when the line was four everywhere and then the news hit this morning and it’s three everywhere so. But I still like the Chiefs in this matchup, as I’m sounding like a broken record the charts don’t like the Chargers all that much. Over the last five weeks Kansas City has been the second best team, that’s to nobody’s surprise, they’ve gained six and a half points of value against the average team over the last five weeks. And the chargers have actually been doing pretty well also, they’ve played the 12th best metric circumstances over the last five weeks gaining almost two points of value. Kansas City moved up to number one offense again, it’s been a long time since they’ve been there for the league overall and number two over the last five weeks, and their defense that is largely ridiculed has been the third best defense over the last five weeks.
They were at the bottom of the league 32, 31, 30, they’re up to 17th while the Chargers are still mired back in 24th defensively, but they’ve been improving, they’ve had the ninth best game defensively just to update those situations. But, you know what? The metrics support Kansas City, the eye test supports Kansas City, as long as Kansas City doesn’t lose any more players I don’t know how the Chargers will stop them quite frankly. And the Chargers defense is just weak, Kansas City should have success there and Kansas City has a better defense than people give them credit for. So laying a short number on a three traditionally just means win the game.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Well, let’s talk about that Chiefs defense a bit because I have a lean to the Chargers at this number and I think about their offense that could put the Kansas City D to the test. I mean, Justin Herbert reminded me a bit of Mark McGwire, to cross sports with this analogy, on Sunday. I mean, McGwire was that player that would hit upper deck bombs.
Scott Kellen:
Steroids?
Matt Landes:
No. Scott, don’t shatter Justin Herbert for me please, it’s too early in his career for that. But yeah, McGwire he’d hit these upper deck homers that the cameraman almost couldn’t keep track of no matter how far they panned out. And I was reminded of that watching replay after replay of Herbert’s bomb late in the second quarter to Jalen Guyton on Sunday, I think he threw the ball almost 65 yards in the air on the run away from pressure with pinpoint accuracy, it was just something to behold. And with this Kansas City defense they’ve put up some great numbers recently but it hasn’t been against the strongest opposition, they drew the Packers without Aaron Rodgers, they got the Cowboys offense when it was really shorthanded. So Cris, those Chiefs numbers you mentioned earlier are those adjusted for strength of schedule and what do you make of this being perhaps a step up in class for that Kansas City defense, perhaps their first big test in quite some time?
Las Vegas Cris:
Well, do you think teams don’t get up and put out their little bit of extra effort when they face a team like the Chiefs or do you think they just treat them like a whole run of the mill team?
Matt Landes:
I think in the NFL every team is going all out pretty much of time. There are spots near and far between where motivation might fluctuate but my MO is that, that gets blown out of proportion and everybody is going all out every snap no matter what.
Las Vegas Cris:
Well, you’re dreaming there. But I assure you there’s a handful of teams that you’re pretty sure to get a team’s best effort. So you can only play the schedule that you play, number one, and most certainly whoever comes and plays the Chiefs other than the Raiders certainly puts forth their best effort. So there’s a lot of intangibles that are hard to factor in, you just have to not get too lost into dissecting and finding ways you can twist and morph stats in your favor. So I don’t keep it simple because I use a lot of stats but if you start trying to tweak too much you’re going to get yourself in trouble.
Matt Landes:
Yeah, I agree. So it sounds like people need to be careful reading too much into or oversimplifying something like motivation and then something more concrete like the stats we’re working with. So it’s safe to assume that you’re maybe reading more into motivation than I am and I’m reading more into strength of schedule than you are and that might be where we diverge a little bit as far as this matchup is concerned.
Las Vegas Cris:
Yeah. I think we talked about it earlier in the season, there’s just so many variables when you look at strength of schedule, the ebbs and flows of effort and who played and what the situations were, you can’t factor all that stuff in. I mean, you would literally annually have to be following each and every circumstance to actually try to do that in an efficient way. I mean, the worst team in the NFL certainly can play better if they’re playing their best possible game than the best team that’s playing their worst game, so how are you supposed to evaluate the effort that those teams put in from game to game? So strength of schedule is overrated, I mean, it counts don’t get me wrong, but people overreact to it quite often.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. I think broad strokes thinking about the Packers without Aaron Rodgers, the Cowboys decimated at the skill positions and across the O line, those are situations that stand out in a way that if I can remember it, not as a fan of those teams, then I tend to be inclined to give it some weight. But you’re the pro better between the two of us so I appreciate you sharing this context because if I’m butting heads with you then we know who’s the favorite and who’s the other.
Las Vegas Cris:
One of the greatest trends that you can bet is to bet on that team in the rally mode because when a team loses its superstar and they have to band together usually you see that team come out with an awesome effort and they actually cover and win and do well and it surprises everybody. So how do you factor that in? And so an awesome trend to play is play that rallying team.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Well, I mean the Chargers seem to be on quite a rally themselves right now so that might be a point for my lean. But another factor I wanted to touch on with the Chiefs, something they’ve been doing well, reminds me of Washington with a pivot we saw with them on late downs early in the season to the middle of the season, the Chiefs with turnovers. The first seven weeks they were minus 10, I mean, it seemed like every game we were just throwing up our hands at the crazy turnovers going against them, last seven games plus 10 and turnovers.
So on the net they’re even for the season and I think that that’s finally got them in a more proper spot from a season long rating standpoint. Again, we touched also on Chris Jones entering COVID protocol for the Chiefs today, kind of evens things out for the Chargers losing Slater for this one. Really curious, Scott, on the injury front, Derwin James, and Asante Samuel, if I knew they were going for the Chargers I would be more inclined to bet them at this number, not sure that I’d pull the trigger. But do you have any sense as to whether those two guys will be available for the Chargers secondary come Thursday evening?
Scott Kellen:
I think James is going to go, they held him out last week, I think it was a hamstring if I’m right. And I don’t know how much NFL teams do this but they were playing the Giants, they knew they had the Chiefs coming up on Thursday night which is obviously a very important game, they probably felt they could win this game against the Giants without Derwin James. So I just get the sense that they held him out really in preparation to be able to go here, I think Staley has said that he feels like there’s a chance here. And when I ran my numbers I put Keenan Allen back in, I’m not sure if he’s been activated or not but I feel very good about him playing, he missed last week because of COVID. And I put Derwin James in there just based on the little bit I could read and just a sense of what they were trying to do last game to this game.
Samuel, I think that’s a little bit different animal, I’m kind of planning him not playing not really knowing but I do think James and Allen are the most important there so I would assume that they play, Slater probably not playing like you said on that Matt. And the other point I’ll make, I’m just looking at the Chiefs schedule here, you can slice and dice this a 1,000 different ways and make things work inside your head any way you want and kind of to the point where the Chiefs have caught some of these teams maybe not in their best modes because of not having to face Rodgers, et cetera, et cetera. Well, you can go both ways in this, but they held the Giants at 17 points, it was a close game obviously 20-17. Giants seemed to move the ball a little bit better in some ways against the Chargers so you could slice and dice it that way. What’s that?
Matt Landes:
Oh, garbage time. [crosstalk 00:25:32] the Chargers special themes in a bit too, but yeah, I hear you.
Scott Kellen:
Yeah. Fair enough, right? But there’s still something happening there I think from a Chiefs perspective. I will say this, when is the last time you saw the Chiefs play a game on the road?
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Offhand that’s a good question. That was the next thing I wanted to touch on is one more factor here. I feel like it’s home field advantage now or never for the Chargers, we know they don’t have a good home field but if they’ve got any this is the time for it to show. Because on a short week their second straight home game, Kansas City is the team that has to do some traveling. So crowd noise and all that aside, just for the Chargers to be staying put two straight weeks at home versus the Chiefs being the team traveling in this circumstance, I’ve got to think, if anything that bumps the Chargers home field advantage up as high as it would ever go so maybe we give them all of a point or half a point-
Scott Kellen:
I don’t know man.
Matt Landes:
… it could be one more thing to maybe give them.
Scott Kellen:
I still think it’s probably a 50-50 crowd or whatever. I’m not giving the Chargers any home field advantage and it is a divisional match up so yeah, it’s a little more of a pain to get on the road but it’s a known quantity that they’re going to play here. And by the way to answer the question too, last time they played on the road was November 14th where they went to the Raiders and beat them on that Sunday night game 41-14, but you’ve got to go all the way back to October 24th when they went to Tennessee and they had a buy-in there too.
So they have almost gone two months with just one road game so we’ve seen a lot of them at home, right? So I just think that’s just an interesting dynamic. But to Cris’s point, I grabbed the Chiefs yesterday at three and a half when everything was four I thought I was getting a great number, Cris got an even better number at three, factoring all this in I still make the Chiefs a pretty heavy favorite in this game and have a pretty high number on the total as well. I was going to make that a best bet for show purposes then we got hit with all this COVID and Chris Jones.
It looks like Sneed their quarterback who missed last week because of the death in the family he’s making his way back to Kansas City, Andy Reid said, “Hey, take all the time you need this game is not important, when you’re ready, we’re ready.” But I think there’s a fairly decent chance he’s going to play in this game and he is a pretty important quarterback for them as well. But I’m interested because Chiefs have not gone on the road here for a while but they are going to play in a controlled environment much like when they played the Raiders and they’ve obviously played here before as well. So I think they’ll be fine in that but it is an interesting note because we’ve seen them at Kansas City forever it seems like recently.
Matt Landes:
Well, as you talk through that Scott I wonder when you first mentioned that, I’m like, oh, advantage to Chargers, Kansas City hasn’t been on the road in forever, then I think, well okay, if Kansas City is traveling in a short week this is a good time him to do it because they’re probably about as fresh as they can be having not traveled so much recently, so where is that factoring that out for you in this one?
Scott Kellen:
Well, the numbers are the numbers for me. I think it’s an interesting note, you try to make sense of it, but the numbers are the numbers. And my numbers still support Kansas City pretty heavily even without a Chris Jones in the lineup and I put Sneed back in because I’m pretty confident that he’s going to play, so it’s hard for me to take the Chargers. And I look here, the Chiefs have won seven straight in San Diego, LA, versus the Chargers, which means seven years in a row. They covered six of those seven, now the one they didn’t cover was last year, I was on the Chargers, it was a 23-20 game, Chargers had them in that game.
Matt Landes:
The Tyrod Taylor punctured lung game.
Scott Kellen:
Yeah. That was Justin Herbert out of nowhere, here he comes, right? And he looked great in that game, but they were nine point favorites in that game. So we’ve talked about how the Chiefs basically didn’t cover last year, they didn’t cover this year, they’ve now covered four in a row. Say what you want about the competition and decimated teams they played but they were nine point favorites last year, they’re now three, three and a half, four point favorites, depending on where you want to gauge that because of COVID. Has this number just overreacted and we’re now overreacting on the Chiefs lack of ability to cover here for a while and maybe they should be a bigger favorite. I’m making them a seven point favorite in this game with all the appropriate adjustments so I just wonder if the number is just over inflated here to the Chargers because the Chiefs aren’t covering against teams, blah, blah, blah, yeah, they played the Packers without Aaron Rodgers, maybe there’s an over adjustment that’s happened here.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. I think that’s a good point. We heard for about a year and a half how the Chiefs couldn’t cover and then, like you said, four in a row, I mean the market ultimately the great equalizer with this stuff so definitely something worth keeping in mind. And Cris, one more point as far as the side is concerned, what would keep me off endorsing the Chargers at the current price would be their special teams, I think this is definitely a point in your favor taking the Chiefs. I mean, still it seems like they can’t protect and punt coverage and their kicking game is just a revolving door of guys coming in and out. What do you make of special teams possibly being a factor in this one given that Kansas City seems to have a lot more stability in that phase of the game?
Las Vegas Cris:
Did you say special needs teams?
Matt Landes:
I might as well have.
Las Vegas Cris:
I mean, yeah, obviously we talked about it in divisional previews and it hasn’t changed much, it’s cost them this year and it’ll probably cost them again. So to what Scott referenced, I have Kansas City as a seven point favorite also, this is a bargain as far as I’m concerned, I don’t think these teams are close.
Scott Kellen:
By the way the Chargers should probably send some thank yous to the Packers and Bengals that maybe at least for the last week take them out of maybe the worst spot for special teams given what happened with Cincinnati and Green Bay last weekend in special team, so maybe they’re not the worst team.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Maybe a big upgrade from 32 to 30 so they’ll have to see if they can go a lot further in that direction before we can take that unit too seriously. And before we move on from this game guys, I also wanted to touch on the total a little bit. We know Cris is on the Chiefs minus three and as far as the total goes, no official plays. I was pretty surprised to see this move up from a look ahead of 49 and a half through a key number, I’m wondering if there might be a bit of an overreaction to the scores we saw last week. I think that there were better matchups for both offenses against the defenses they took on in week 14 than what we’ll see here on Thursday night.
I mean, if you’re not the Raiders then you’re probably defending the Chiefs in the cover too, that’s known to put a bit of a cap on their offense. And Steve Spagnuolo with some of what he can do post snap that’s the one thing that Justin Herbert still seems to be yet to figure out giving the Chargers offense spits when things get muddled after the ball has been snapped so I kind of feel like both offenses might not be as explosive as we have come to expect from them. What do you guys make of this total crossing again, up through 49 and a half to now? I’m seeing as high as 52 some places and a lot of 51 and a half as well. Cris, I think you had a bit of a lean to the over if I was maybe going an opposite lean from you once again here.
Las Vegas Cris:
Well, yeah. The Chargers can’t stop anybody, that’s the problem, but how do you weigh the, and Scott will be able to comment better, how do you weigh the time how Kansas City bleeds out each possession? They’re not going for the big plays anymore, Mahomes is finding success not quasi dinking and dunking and taking whatever defenses give him. So it’s hard to kind of factor that in because quite frankly Kansas City should be able to do what they want at the speed that they want, what speed are they going to want to do it? And if San Diego gets out to a lead or something goofy happens and there’s a quick couple of touchdowns, well yeah, that 51 is going to be easy so there’s a lot of variables that are kind of tough there. What do you think Scott?
Scott Kellen:
So we’ve talked about this a lot, these late season divisional battles with high totals tend to go under and they’ve gone under since week 11 which is kind of the measuring stick to really start thinking about going under on higher totals and they’ve gone under at a fairly decent rate this year, it’s been pretty good. So the first thought is, okay, you got to keep that in mind because this is almost playoff like football, these teams know each other, and we know historically, and this is going back to 1983, year after year after year after year they go under, so that’s the first thought. But then there’s the numbers, right? And I’m looking, I’ve got this total at about 57, 58 points, it’s a high projection way off from the 51 now obviously 52, it’s crept up. And I rarely go against going under, I did grab a 51 which is a key number this morning as all that stuff was happening, not necessarily recommending the over but I took it, I took it at a better number.
And I don’t know if I’d go over 51, obviously because again, we know these totals can go under and we know how Staley, like you said, plays, remember last year 23-20 so it’s a lower scoring game. But when I look at these, both these teams are top seven for me in passing offense and they’re both middle of the road from a defensive standpoint and I’ve got really two top seven offenses against middle to below middle defenses, there’s big play capability. To your point Cris about bleeding the clock and all that, we see this with Tampa Bay, we see this with Green Bay, sometimes they play slow. Now, Rodgers does it so he can get almost down to the last second to really see what the defense is doing so they don’t have time to adjust after they snap it, but they also can play slow to protect their defense a little bit.
But when you’re playing teams that are just as capable of scoring you might have to go a little bit faster, you might have to be a little bit more aggressive just because you’ve got to score points in this matchup as well. So your opponent can dictate a lot of this as well and we know neither team is going to feel like they have enough points in this game because they know what the other team can do. So unlike where they maybe play a team and then the last half or the fourth quarter they can run the ball or go slow and they don’t have to care because they have a margin of a lead, that’s not likely to happen in this game, so I think it helps to support the over a little bit as well. Perfect environments that adds a little bit to it as well. So my numbers are supporting the over and so I would lean over in this game despite this situation that has been truly dependent and consistent over all these years to go under in these types of games.
Matt Landes:
All right. Well, hearing that from you glad it is just a lean for me to the under. And one more thing I wanted to ramp that’s about this game but also about a lot of games we’ll see down the home stretch this season, when we get this kind of COVID or injury news if you’re not really quick to pull the trigger on let’s say, the Chargers plus four this morning before the lines matches down to three, you’re probably better off leaving the side alone.
But there’s a bigger attack surface for us that’s better is, shortly before we recorded I was able to find some unadjusted numbers, Chargers plus 225 to win the West, 12 to 1 to win the AFC, 30 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. All that being correlated to the fact that if they can win this game on Thursday night they’re in a decent spot to pursue the one seat in the AFC as crazy as that might sound. When it comes to derivative bets like that what do you guys think of if we can’t bet information really quickly against the spread finding opportunities elsewhere at sports books to still get in play with some correlated options? Do you guys [crosstalk 00:37:38] of the season much?
Las Vegas Cris:
I don’t do a lot of it at this point. I mean, we’re so close to the end, you’re not going to really get those long shots. I spoke about it a month ago and brought the Colts to people’s attention, I think I misplayed it, I should have just played it to win AFC and Super Bowl but I outsmarted myself and had them win the division. But I don’t like to look forward this close to the end of the season, there’s no big hits to be made here, everybody knows the pathways for each of these teams as far as I’m concerned.
Scott Kellen:
Yeah. I would say, let’s go back a couple of weeks for a minute and this is more of a game situation so maybe not the exact derivative market that you’re speaking to Matt, but still a derivative market. When I had the Vikings at Detroit on a teaser and we lost that game obviously and the Vikings were decimated defensively as Chris Johnson said, and he’s a Lions fan too. But I played Kirk Cousins over on the passing yards just because I felt if they were going to have a deficiency that day it was going to be on the defensive side and he quite easily actually went over his passing yards in that game so that part of it won, obviously lost the other part of it. And I also had the Vikings over the team total points which I lost but I was just trying to get at some other things in case something went wrong on the other side of it, I still felt pretty good that he could at least get over on the passing yards just knowing the Lions secondary.
So a little bit different animal than I think what you asked but there’s different ways to attack games or even futures if you will, if you just think through it a little bit and just try to find another way to get at a team. Sometimes you like a team but you’re not quite there to take that team, Denver was a good example last week, and again, maybe not exactly what you’re asking, but I didn’t want to lay that many points with Denver but I felt good about them on their team total points so I ended up playing over on the team total points. So it’s just different ways to attack a game sometimes if you’re not comfortable with maybe just the conventional way.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Well, beyond Cris’s bet on the Chiefs minus three, a lot to consider here with Chargers, Chiefs and we will leave it at that and move on to the weekend. We’ve got two Saturday games each of the next two weeks also Sunday that we’ll get to on today’s show. Let’s go first to the Raiders at the Browns, Cleveland laying three minus 105, total of 40. Cris, another game where we got some big news today that moved this line in a major way, what do you make of this matchup?
Las Vegas Cris:
Well, I’d hoped to offer this game a plus six earlier so unfortunately it’s down to three so a lot of the value is gone. But this is a short and sweet explanation for this game and that is, you’re looking at the two worst teams, number 31, number 32, over the last five weeks. I’ve got Cleveland number 19 overall, Raiders number 23 overall for the season, these teams are pretty similar. You’re looking at the Cleveland Browns which seven out of the last eight games have not been able to score more than 17 points, in this situation they had no business laying six that was pretty easy, I don’t believe that they have any business laying three quite frankly. So I still like the Raiders here but I just wish they would’ve been the plus six.
Matt Landes:
Yeah, I’d say it’s probably Raiders are nothing for me as well, I mean, they were O for five recovering fumbles last week in Kansas City. If they went five for five they still might not win that game but they were unlucky to go along with not playing. Well, I think they make a better showing in Cleveland this week and the Browns, we kind of touched on it off the top, eight players added to the COVID list, their offense just decimated now. And on the other side of the ball, not in addition to the COVID list but Greg Newsome in their secondary is still in concussion protocol so not sure what we’ll see from the Browns on either side of the ball. And last week against the Ravens they won that game but again, they lost yards per play pretty decidedly, the Ravens only converted one out of 12 third downs, still almost won that game without Lamar for most of it. Not impressed by what we’ve seen from Cleveland even though they got another notch in the wind column last week, Raiders are nothing for me. Scott, how about you?
Scott Kellen:
I’m kind of with Cris and I was just kind of looking at some of my ratings here from a player standpoint. I’m kind of with Cris here, I didn’t play the game yet and I would want Darren Waller to play and I was just looking, he missed practice again today so maybe he doesn’t play, he’s pretty key. But who is Cleveland here? We know the Raiders haven’t been very good offensively here recently but I’ve actually got the Raiders rated higher than Cleveland offensively. Now to defend Cleveland, they’ve had massive injuries but they’re going to have them again, right? Because of the COVID like you said. Two offensive linemen hit COVID today, probably their best two offensive linemen that are left possibly, tread at the center is pretty good too. But remember they lost a right tackle Jack Conklin for the year before last game so they’re going to be down three offensive linemen.
And remember, Austin Hooper was the only tight end basically they had last week, he’s now on COVID, so they lost all those other tight ends, I don’t know if any of them are coming back so they may have no tight ends. I think they only have two receivers left on the roster right now after this recent rash of COVID so offensively they got nothing. And so if Waller plays and there’s a good chance now he doesn’t but I’m just quoting based on if he plays, I’ve got Vegas as a one point favorites. So to Cris’s point, and we were kind of talking about this before the show, you kind of hate that you didn’t grab plus six earlier but plus three is not necessarily bad because the circumstances have completely changed here.
But I would want Waller to play plus three, if I knew Waller was playing I would grab the plus three with Vegas. Because I’m not sure yet I’m going to wait and then just hope that you can pounce on it if you find out that he’s playing, if he’s not playing I’ll probably pass the game. But Cleveland is a mess here and this is a different season, but remember Vegas went in there in a very windy conditions last year and actually beat Cleveland there in a very low scoring game because of the wind. But like Chris said, Cleveland should not be laying six points and now after all these decimation to their team from COVID I’m not sure they should be laying three either.
Las Vegas Cris:
I have Cleveland as the ninth worst offensive team and that’s before all this COVID stuff so. And speaking of COVID, there’s $160 million worth of salary on the COVID list this week.
Scott Kellen:
Wow. Geez.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. That explains some hesitance to pull the trigger on some of these games this early in the week with all the unknowns. But the next game on the board, Scott, not waiting to get and play on and that would be New England Indianapolis on Saturday evening, Colts laying two minus 115, total 45 and a half. Scott, let us know how you’re getting in play on this one.
Scott Kellen:
Yeah. I’m going to look at New England here but I’m going to do it from a teaser standpoint. So we’ll take eight, we’re going to tease it with Miami, we’ll talk more about the Miami game on Friday and get Miami down to two or two and a half, but I like New England here. The Colts for me are number 30 in pressure rate this year so Mac Jones should have some time to be able to throw the ball if he wants to. I’ve got New England rated as the better offense slightly over Indi and I’ve got them as the better defense over Indi. I’ve actually got them favored by about a point in this game so I think there’s some value there as well for New England. I respect the hell out of the Colts and they could win this game I think. But looking back here over the last year, we’ll go back to the beginning of 2020 when they had Phillip Rivers and I consider Carson Wentz kind of an equivalent from a quarterback standpoint.
The Colts have really struggled to get separation when they’ve been a short home favored of three or less, meaning that they’re probably playing teams that are pretty good as well because the Colts have been decent the last couple of years. They’re one in three straight up and against the spread as a home favored of three or less. The one win was by three points over a Green Bay last year, that was a game they were behind by a lot and halftime came storming back and held on to win that game I think 34 or 31 so they’re not beating really good teams at home by separation. Yeah, they went into Buffalo on the road this year and destroyed the Bills so they certainly have that capability. But I like New England’s defense and I think their offense is good enough to keep this game close and getting it up over the touch down from a teaser standpoint I think gives us a little bit of value in New England and a teaser.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. One thing that stood out to me there you mentioning having the Patriots as a short favorite by your numbers and I believe that’s where the look ahead market stood. Cris, I know the look ahead market is one of your favorite things in all of betting. But both of these teams were on their buy last week so it’s not like anything material has changed and yet we see the Colts becoming the clear favorite early this week. What do you think warrants that line move if anything?
Las Vegas Cris:
Well, it’s funny because I had somebody comment on messaging this morning, they were incredulous that Indianapolis would be favored in this situation. And we all know how well the Patriots have been doing, I mean, they’ve won, was it eight games in a row or seven games in a row? But they’re number four over the last five weeks progress, number three, the Colts ahead of them. Overall for this season I have these teams, you push the record aside, statistically these teams are like this. And the Colts fought through some early season struggles with just devastating injuries, I mean, geez, I mean, they had nobody for a few of those games, it just seemed like they were fielding a practice squad and just surviving.
But this team is a darn good team, we said it five, six weeks ago, watch out for the Colts, and here they are. And there’s a hell of a lot of people that think the Colts are the best team in the AFC, trust me, they may not say it publicly but they say it privately. Go ahead and let people think Kansas City is the best team, the Colts are the team that nobody wants to face. With that in mind I took the Patriots plus three this morning, I still see value on the Patriots but I’ve had them over the last few weeks and I’ve felt a hell of a lot more confident about it, it’s not going to surprise me to see the Colts do pretty well here. And going back to strength of schedule discussion, with Patriots you do have to kind of question their strength of schedule.
The Colts have really had their tests, they are tested this year and the Patriots really haven’t been tested. And there’s a word that Mac Jones has a thumb issue, there’s a couple of other COVID things I think that popped up but they were kind of minor. So just a lot of moving parts here, I’m really looking forward to this game. But another option just to finish right up, this is a perfect chance to use a front-end teaser into a play you’re already going to play the following day. So if you like New England don’t take the plus two or the plus two and a half, you can take the teaser, take them through the seven and a half or eight, eight and a half and throw it into something you want to bet Sunday anyway. So if New England loses it doesn’t matter, you can bet the game on Sunday you were going to bet anyway and you were going to lose on New England so no harm, no foul.
Scott Kellen:
Hey, I’ll just make a point that you made there Cris too about the strength of schedule for New England, we get all over Kansas City because they played the Packers without Rodgers and all the stuff that we’ve documented. But let’s remember New England played Tennessee, they were decimated at receiver in that game, they played Atlanta, they had nobody on offense in that game, they played Cleveland, I believe was very decimated in that game, so in Carolina, I don’t remember what Carolina’s situation was.
So New England has caught a lot of breaks there as well and all we talk about is how good New England is and we kind of forget where they’ve caught some breaks. And look, I think both teams, New England and Kansas City, are both very good teams but I just find it a little funny how we treat one team one way and kind of ignore the other team. And maybe it’s because Belichick is a great coach and all this and that and you kind of dismiss some things, but truth be told, they’ve been maybe as fortunate as Kansas City has been with some of their opponents that they’ve played as well.
Las Vegas Cris:
I think New England is my number one ding against team off of their hardcore numbers just because I want to over ding for strength of schedule for those reasons that you mentioned.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Well, Scott, you talked about maybe the Patriots getting a break because Belichick is so highly regarded but Andy Reid, no slouch in his own, right? And one more point to bring a balanced perspective to that equation, the Patriots in their last game in that windstorm in Buffalo the elements really helping prop up their defensive prowess if you look at just the stats. I mean, Allen was cutting through the wind pretty well with his arm strength and a lot of drops got in the way and so many things just worked in favor of the Patriots defensive metrics, might not play out for them that smoothly moving forward. But there is one angle I’ll look at in this game aside from giving them some strong teaser consideration along with you Scott, of course Belichick is known to try to make his opponents play left-handed so to speak.
So Jonathan Taylor props, I mean, they might be pretty high, he’s just been on quite a role lately. But the Patriots you got to think they’ll prioritize limiting his impact on the game so that’s something I’ll be keeping a close eye on when props become more widely available later this week. Moving on to the team that I believe Jonathan Taylor most recently ran all over, the Houston Texans traveling to Jacksonville to take on the Jaguars. Get this guys, in the NFL in week 15 in 2021 the Jaguars are heavily juiced three point favorite without hosting the Houston Texans, total 39 and a half. And Scott you’re inside, you’re in play, excuse me, on a side in this one, tell us about it.
Scott Kellen:
Yeah, I’m going to make this pretty short and sweet because there’s not a whole lot I can say that is really going to support Jacksonville. But I am going to play Jacksonville minus three, minus 120, I wouldn’t play it any higher than this from a money line and certainly not at three and a half. This is just a math play for me here, I’ve got Jacksonville favored by almost seven points in this game actually over Houston so it’s just a numbers play, Jacksonville sucks, Houston apparently sucks more. And Davis Mills he’s kept his team within 15 points or better than 15 points at only one of the games he played, that was a 25-22 loss at home to New England actually, but every game he’s played they’ve been blown out in.
And I went against Houston last week in a teaser situation with Seattle, this offensive line is not very good, Jacksonville does at least have something on their defensive line to possibly put a little bit of pressure on Houston. I just don’t trust Davis Mills, hard to trust anything with Jacksonville, but I think they’re the better team here and the numbers just speak value so I’m going to play them. There’s not a whole lot more I can say because Jacksonville is awful but the numbers support a play in Jacksonville in this game.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. When I look at this I see [crosstalk 00:53:35] in your favor.
Las Vegas Cris:
I think you’re hitting the dispensary here. My numbers are five and a half on there also but this team wants their coach gone. I don’t know how you can get behind a team that’s run by Meyer at this point when he’s a laughingstock coach. And surprisingly enough both of these teams have had 10 teams play worse than they have over the last five weeks, they’re both showing little signs of life, neither one of these teams is completely dead but I want to be on the side where the team doesn’t hate their coach.
Scott Kellen:
Urban says they don’t hate him, you don’t believe him?
Las Vegas Cris:
No.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. I would add to that, the Jax for the last two weeks, first for the Rams and most recently for the Titans, have been a get right team for their opposition. I mean, this past Sunday their defense allowed less than four yards of play, they still lost the game by 20, so that would keep me off the Jax. But Scott, in your favor I would say, Houston also lost by 20 last week and they played a worse opponent than Jacksonville did and I just think that showed a Texas sized gap between the Texans and any sign of competence so stay away from me.
Scott Kellen:
Let me throw this one out there, see if you can get into this one Cris, I actually did play the under this morning now the numbers moved down, I got this total at 35 so it’s moved down a little too low for me to recommend it now. But to your point Matt, Jacksonville actually played okay defensively last week, their offense has been brutally bad, we know Houston’s offense is brutally bad so it’s actually an underplay. If this thing would trick back up to 41 which I think is a pretty key number, I would recommend the under in this game as well. How about that Cris, can you get behind that?
Las Vegas Cris:
Get a cow gun and take me away.
Matt Landes:
All right. Well, let’s take it away to a question we’ve got from the live chat. Looks like Daniel Jones will be out again this week, do you guys think the Giants make a lot of moves this off season or do they run it back? I am far, far away guys from thinking about the New York Giants off season plans but any thoughts on what they might do given the future of their quarterback situation to build the franchise around?
Las Vegas Cris:
Yeah. They’re done with Jones I think, I think they’re going to replace their general manager and they’re going to keep the coach and give him another year and see what happens. What is he supposed to do when everybody is injured every game? But I think that they have faith in Judge and they’ll give them another year.
Scott Kellen:
I think it’s tough to measure Daniel Jones. Now, if you get a really good quarterback like Justin Herbert or something, you can just see it, right? And you don’t necessarily see that in Daniel Jones. But my God, they upgraded the wide receiver unit this year and these guys have been hurt every single week, the offensive line is horrible. Jason Garrett, Freddie Kitchens, these are the guys leading Daniel Jones, he’s had probably a different coordinator every year he is been there almost, it’s hard to evaluate and the organization is just bad right now. So I don’t think they’re going to completely bail on him but they also need to be looking for another quarterback to see what else they can do when something presents the opportunity either through a draft or another way, maybe they go that route. But I think they’ll try to keep working with Jones because it’s just really hard to evaluate him based on it’s just been an awful team, just an awful team which he’s part of obviously.
Matt Landes:
One of my favorite takeaways from last night’s Monday night game a lot of talk about, oh, Stafford finally beat a good team, there are so many metrics to quantify how he, I guess, hadn’t beaten a good team over the course of his career. Stafford in another class is compared to Daniel Jones right now but it’s amazing what being on a good team can do for your personal ability to beat a good team. So we’ll have to see if the Giants can give Daniel Jones some better surroundings because this draft class for quarterbacks not looking so hot, I don’t think they’re in a position to pay a premium for another quarterback. So yeah, hard to see the Giants moving on from Jones quite yet but maybe a make or break year for him next season as far as his day is concerned in New York.
I think that can move us on guys to our best bets for the Tuesday show. We do have a graphic this week to show what we’re on already, plenty more to come on Friday. But for now, Cris in play on the Chiefs minus three, minus 115, also the Saints plus 11. Heads up, any full breakdowns are coming on Friday for games you see here that were not covered today that includes the Saints on Sunday night, Cris is taking them plus 11 now to lock in that number. I’m on a teaser pairing the Dolphins minus two and a half with the Steelers plus seven and a half. Scott also teasing the Dolphins pairing them with the Patriots plus eight and laying the three minus 120 with the Jax.
All right guys, one more thing to close out the show on a fun note, let’s just put all this COVID news cycle off to the side for a bit and have some fun as we wrap things up here today and get into a fun topic. Courtesy of the team at BetUS we can pull up a graphic that’s basically building the best NFL quarterback this per a BetUS fan survey, we’re looking at factors like accuracy, arm strength, decision making. And I got to say guys, this quarterback on the screen here looks like a bit of a cross between Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady looking quite dazed and confused. Any thoughts on what you see here as far as building the best NFL quarterback Cris and Scott?
Las Vegas Cris:
I can’t blow it up large enough to see it, I’m blind. But the one thing I do know is, anything with Baker Mayfield on it drives me nuts.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Off-field swag, Baker Mayfield getting the fans vote. Not sure how heavily we weigh that against the likes of accuracy and arm strength and decision making but I guess people seem to say that Mayfield has quite a bit of swag.
Las Vegas Cris:
That’s actually pretty cool there.
Scott Kellen:
They should do this and just take Brady and Rodgers just off and then see who you put in there because obviously those guys are going to dominate everything here. And Big Ben size and build, yes he’s big and then you’ve got Tom Brady size and build, I mean, Brady is tall but he’s not that big, that’s kind of funny to see Brady.
Las Vegas Cris:
They’ve named Brady under clutchness.
Matt Landes:
Brady is all over this thing and for good reason, I mean, he’s obviously the greatest of all time. Scott, to your point about Brady and Rodgers, the only two categories without either of them legs/mobility, Lamar, Kyle Murray, and Josh Allen taking the podium there, and off-field swag again, Baker Mayfield the leader and then Patrick Mahomes, and Russell Wilson. But aside from that, size and build, leadership, decision making, clutchness, arm strength, accuracy, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady all over this list. I would say Scott, to your point, build Ben Roethlisberger, I’m not sure, maybe if we’re doing a donut eating contest or something like that I would want Big Ben on my team. But a name I’m not seeing here, I know I’m a Chargers fan and I’m trying to stay objective but I mean, is there no Justin Herbert anywhere near the top when we look at build and arm strength? I just feel like if we do this again in another year or two he might be one of those quarterbacks who was showing up early and often across these categories.
Scott Kellen:
I’ll give you that. And Baker Mayfield with off-field swag, I don’t really get that. Maybe Johnny Manziel with some off field swag but I don’t really see Baker Mayfield as an off-field swag, I don’t know, maybe I’m missing that.
Las Vegas Cris:
Not anymore. And those look too small for hands.
Matt Landes:
I was just going to say Cris, it looks like on this image we can see the Packers helmet, the Bucs helmet, part Rodgers face, part Brady face, it’s a combination of all these different players in visual form. But the hands look a little bit small so I do feel like somebody secretly did decide that Jared Goff gets the nod for hand size when we look at this illustration. What would you guys say of all these factors to wrap it up? Again, accuracy, arm, strength, decision making, and so on. What stands out to you the most as professional betters when you’re looking at what really moves the needle for quarterback play? What’s at the top of your list and who do you think does that the best in the league right now?
Las Vegas Cris:
I think it’s when you have a quarterback that commands the respect of their teammates, the leadership, when your teammates are going to break their butt for their quarterback.
Scott Kellen:
Yeah. I think accuracy for sure and then the whole leadership decision making. I mean, you just look and maybe I know it’s not on there, maybe that falls into decision making experience, because you just look at Brady and Rodgers, they go to the line of scrimmage, they see everything. You’re not throwing anything at them that they haven’t seen over the last 20 years or whatever and that is just so huge in this game to not be fooled. So I think that whole leadership decision making experience, got to be accurate with the ball, I think those are all huge factors.
Matt Landes:
Yeah. Well, for those of you who are checking this out with us here on YouTube or if you’re listening in podcast form and you want to see what this looks like, on the BetUS website you can also see this kind of breakdown for other positions and even some other sports. There’s a building the best athletes feature done in the locker room section at betus.com and you can find a link to check that out in the description of this episode. That’ll take us home on a nice positive note you guys, and it’s just a crazy news cycle right now, and we’d like to take a moment to thank everybody for tuning in. If you’re with us on YouTube go ahead and give us a thumbs up, subscribe on your way out the door, and we will be back to break down the rest of the weekend board live on Friday at 12:00 PM Eastern, 9:00 AM Pacific. We’ll see you then right back here at BetUS where the game begins. And don’t forget to check out our sportsbook.